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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 03-06-2014, 01:36 PM Thread Starter
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Is the battery lease affecting other EV sales?

Just seen an advert for a used Nissan Leaf on Autotrader and the comment line was "No battery rental, You Own It!".

Sounds like they must have been asked by lots of potential customers put off by the thought of a battery lease. If that's the case, how many potential customers just don't bother to ask?

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classifi...ge/4?logcode=p

The battery lease has a lot to answer for!
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post #2 of 8 (permalink) Old 03-07-2014, 05:52 AM
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RE: Is the battery lease affecting other EV sales?

Since the lease version of the Leaf was introduced why do you not think it relevant to include this in the description? If the Leaf being sold had a leased battery I would have expected the owner to disclose it? (Or are you so blinded to the benefits of leasing a battery, that you'd think all Leafs have inclusive traction batteries?)
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RE: Is the battery lease affecting other EV sales?

I think the point was more that the battery being included is something that helps sell the car. You are not going to see ads with titles that shout "Battery hire available from 70 per month!!"
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RE: Is the battery lease affecting other EV sales?

No - but I've plenty ads that state: 'Battery Lease extra'. Leaf sellers are going to have to disclose which they have!
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RE: Is the battery lease affecting other EV sales?

Maybe because the car was sub 10,000 WITH the battery, that many people assumed that it can't include it.

On a different note, I've been looking at the Peugeot Ions that are now sub 9,000 and thought they were a bargain until I came across their warranty!?!?!

Check page 8 on the following link;

http://www.peugeot.co.uk/media/peuge...s-brochure.pdf

Vehicle warranty; 3 years or 60,000 miles. (nothing unusual there)
Drivetrain warranty; 5 years or 40,000 miles!! What?

They're only confident enough to offer a 40,000 mile warranty on the drivetrain - the electric bit to you and I. Totally crackers. Who in their right mind accepts or even offers a 40,000 mile warranty these days? Peugeot and Citroen it would appear. When you have Kia offering a 7 year unlimited mileage warranty and Toyota offering 5 years, 100,000 miles warranty or 10 years/100,000 on their hybrid drivetrain, it doesn't take much to wonder why the French manufacturers are losing market share.

(shakes head in total despair! )
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RE: Is the battery lease affecting other EV sales?

It'll be the battery that limits this. I had a demo in one last year and to be fair they did point this out, suggesting the alternative was excluding the traction battery from the drivetrain elements. For the other makes you mentioned, you would need to explicitly check each and every one to see whether below-par batteries were part of it.

At least with the lease, we have the security of knowing we're covered!
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RE: Is the battery lease affecting other EV sales?

Do you work for Renault or a Renault dealer or supplier?
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post #8 of 8 (permalink) Old 03-08-2014, 10:57 AM
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RE: Is the battery lease affecting other EV sales?

No - if you recall, I have a 7k bike with a useless battery that gives me 8m range after 4 years. I don't plan to be left high and dry again, which is why I just love these folk who see leading as an onerous burden. Boy will they be in for a shock!
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